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Jt80 schreef: 13 aug 2021, 11:14
LaurensVS schreef: 13 aug 2021, 10:51
Jt80 schreef: 13 aug 2021, 09:44 Hi all you Blauw-Zwart fans :-)

I am a fan of FC Copenhagen and former Belgium resident and I am following this transfer saga, involving Mo Daramy, with great interest. I hope you will entertain my questions.

As far as I can see, you play a 3-5-2 system, where would you see Mo Daramy fitting in? I see him mostly as a left winger and secondarily as a striker.

According to roumors you have placed a, for Brugge, record bid between 10-12 million Euros, but FC Copenhagen is demanding 15 million Euros. Is the original bid as far as you can go or do you think that your sports director is willing to go further, in order to secure the deal?

Best regards from Denmark
Hello there,

Our coach is rather flexible so i wouldn't pin us down to 1 system. This season it looks like we're going to play a basic 4-3-3 that can change to a 4-4-2.
Our main issue is that we have no wingers with depth in their game. De Ketelaere and Lang are amazing players but they'd rather hold on to the ball instead of making runs behind defenses.
That's where Daramy comes in. Ever since we sold Diatta to Monaco we are lacking a similar profile. Something we highly need against teams that park the bus.
So we really need a winger, and we're aiming pretty high.

Talking about the transfer fee I don't know how far Copenhagen wants to push it. If our original bid is 12mil and if you want 14, I think they'll get to an agreement (maybe including bonusses and a % on the added value if we sell him).
But it also depends on other possible transfers. We've also made a bid close to 10 mil for Sebastian Villa (Boca Juniors) and if we seal that deal, I don't think we'll push for another expensive winger but rather go for a cheaper 2nd option.

That being said, I really hope they can close Daramy, prefer him over that crazy Villa guy every day of the week.
Hi and thanks for the answer :-)

Well if you are playing a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, then Daramy is a perfect match. He´s been schooled in a very rigid 4-4-2 which has been the preferred system for FC Copenhagen for more than a decade. As of now we are defending more or less in a 4-4-2 and attacking in a 4-2-1-2 formation, but our current coach Jess Thorup is quite flexible (to flexible for some of our fans :D ). For my part I sincerely hope to hold on to Daramy for another season as I think he is on the verge of having his big breakthrough and his price will only increase from here. For this reason I hope you go with Sebastian Villa. However I suspect that a sale of either him or Jonas Wind is inevitable if we are to deliver on our transferbudget.

Bonusinfo: Roumor has it that before Daramy was moved to the first team RB Leipzig placed af bid of around 5 million Euros and AC Milan has also been contemplating a bid, but had to complete a loan move for Hauge before they could move on him.
Welcome to our forum Jt80! Can you elaborate a bit on the strengths and weaknesses of Daramy?
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Wie zegt dat damary komt?
Enkel als er een speler tekent en voorgesteld wordt, is het zeker....er zijn al zoveel geruchten verspreid zonder concreet te worden
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Even voor de mensen die zeggen "Daramy hadden we 2 jaar geleden voor 2-3m moeten kopen" - wees aub niet hypocriet. Als Club nu naar buiten zou komen met de mededeling dat ze een 17jarige kopen voor 2-3m ontploft het forum met negatieve commentaren - 2 jaar geleden zou dat net hetzelfde geweest zijn.

Onze Club is geëvolueerd. Vroeger kochten we 18jarigen met veel talent in de hoop ze tegen hun 21ste door te verkopen met een mooie winst. Als je daarnaast een stevige as hebt (wat wij hebben) kan je in de Belgische competitie elk jaar meespelen voor de titel en hem meer dan 50% van de seizoenen binnenhalen. Als je mee wil met de Europese (sub)top - wat ze bij ons duidelijk willen - dan moet je proberen te concurreren met Ajax en dergelijke teams en dat betekent concreet ~10m geven aan spelers die al wat bewezen hebben en hopen er nog meer op te pakken.

Het is duidelijk dat ons bestuur daarnaar zoekt, en het is ook evident dat zo'n transfers een pak moeilijker te realiseren zijn dan het kopen van 17-18jarigen. Wij kunnen zo'n spelers enkel de CL bieden - in Engeland kan élk team in de PL hen een hoger loon bieden en de belofte van toppers tegen Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City, ... Je moet de speler in kwestie dus kunnen overtuigen van de meerwaarde van je project. Succes in Europa zal op termijn een grote invloed hebben, maar vooralsnog moeten we eerst succes in Europa zien te halen (lees : eens overwinteren).

Dus over de kwestie Daramy : ik heb geen idee hoe kwalitatief hij is, maar de realiteit is dat we zo'n type speler zoeken en er dus ook een hoop miljoentjes voor over zullen moeten hebben (in de hoop ze binnen 2-3 jaar voor 40m door te verkopen).
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FrankFarinaII schreef: 13 aug 2021, 16:59 Wie zegt dat damary komt?
Enkel als er een speler tekent en voorgesteld wordt, is het zeker....er zijn al zoveel geruchten verspreid zonder concreet te worden
Yeez zeg...
Ten eerste de "Forumscouting" topic is voor spelers waaran we zelf denken dat ze zouden moeten gescout worden door Club. Begrijp dus niet waarom een meer dan gewoon gerucht (staat op het officiele Twitter pagina van Kopenhagen dat we een bod hebben gebracht) hier geplaatst wordt en niet in het Zomertransfer topic.
En dan ten tweede, mag dit forum nog wel gebruikt worden om the chatten? Mag het? :thumba:

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Fanzy schreef: 14 aug 2021, 02:38
FrankFarinaII schreef: 13 aug 2021, 16:59 Wie zegt dat damary komt?
Enkel als er een speler tekent en voorgesteld wordt, is het zeker....er zijn al zoveel geruchten verspreid zonder concreet te worden
Yeez zeg...
Ten eerste de "Forumscouting" topic is voor spelers waaran we zelf denken dat ze zouden moeten gescout worden door Club. Begrijp dus niet waarom een meer dan gewoon gerucht (staat op het officiele Twitter pagina van Kopenhagen dat we een bod hebben gebracht) hier geplaatst wordt en niet in het Zomertransfer topic.
En dan ten tweede, mag dit forum nog wel gebruikt worden om the chatten? Mag het? :thumba:

Voel u niet zo woke....
Twitter, kranten, etc publiceren wel meer. Uiteindelijk klopt er maar 5% van, dus vooraleer pagina's te schrijven over een speler, eerst zien of het concreet is
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FrankFarinaII schreef: 14 aug 2021, 08:45
Fanzy schreef: 14 aug 2021, 02:38
FrankFarinaII schreef: 13 aug 2021, 16:59 Wie zegt dat damary komt?
Enkel als er een speler tekent en voorgesteld wordt, is het zeker....er zijn al zoveel geruchten verspreid zonder concreet te worden
Yeez zeg...
Ten eerste de "Forumscouting" topic is voor spelers waaran we zelf denken dat ze zouden moeten gescout worden door Club. Begrijp dus niet waarom een meer dan gewoon gerucht (staat op het officiele Twitter pagina van Kopenhagen dat we een bod hebben gebracht) hier geplaatst wordt en niet in het Zomertransfer topic.
En dan ten tweede, mag dit forum nog wel gebruikt worden om the chatten? Mag het? :thumba:

Voel u niet zo woke....
Twitter, kranten, etc publiceren wel meer. Uiteindelijk klopt er maar 5% van, dus vooraleer pagina's te schrijven over een speler, eerst zien of het concreet is
Woke, serieus?
Dus als Kopenhagen zelf op hun Twitter pagina aankondigen dat ze een bod voor een van hun spelers hebben gekregen, moet ik dat niet geloven? Ok merci, ik weet genoeg! Ciaokes 😁
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IsO schreef: 13 aug 2021, 13:38
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Jt80 schreef: 13 aug 2021, 11:14
LaurensVS schreef: 13 aug 2021, 10:51
Jt80 schreef: 13 aug 2021, 09:44 Hi all you Blauw-Zwart fans :-)

I am a fan of FC Copenhagen and former Belgium resident and I am following this transfer saga, involving Mo Daramy, with great interest. I hope you will entertain my questions.

As far as I can see, you play a 3-5-2 system, where would you see Mo Daramy fitting in? I see him mostly as a left winger and secondarily as a striker.

According to roumors you have placed a, for Brugge, record bid between 10-12 million Euros, but FC Copenhagen is demanding 15 million Euros. Is the original bid as far as you can go or do you think that your sports director is willing to go further, in order to secure the deal?

Best regards from Denmark
Hello there,

Our coach is rather flexible so i wouldn't pin us down to 1 system. This season it looks like we're going to play a basic 4-3-3 that can change to a 4-4-2.
Our main issue is that we have no wingers with depth in their game. De Ketelaere and Lang are amazing players but they'd rather hold on to the ball instead of making runs behind defenses.
That's where Daramy comes in. Ever since we sold Diatta to Monaco we are lacking a similar profile. Something we highly need against teams that park the bus.
So we really need a winger, and we're aiming pretty high.

Talking about the transfer fee I don't know how far Copenhagen wants to push it. If our original bid is 12mil and if you want 14, I think they'll get to an agreement (maybe including bonusses and a % on the added value if we sell him).
But it also depends on other possible transfers. We've also made a bid close to 10 mil for Sebastian Villa (Boca Juniors) and if we seal that deal, I don't think we'll push for another expensive winger but rather go for a cheaper 2nd option.

That being said, I really hope they can close Daramy, prefer him over that crazy Villa guy every day of the week.
Hi and thanks for the answer :-)

Well if you are playing a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, then Daramy is a perfect match. He´s been schooled in a very rigid 4-4-2 which has been the preferred system for FC Copenhagen for more than a decade. As of now we are defending more or less in a 4-4-2 and attacking in a 4-2-1-2 formation, but our current coach Jess Thorup is quite flexible (to flexible for some of our fans :D ). For my part I sincerely hope to hold on to Daramy for another season as I think he is on the verge of having his big breakthrough and his price will only increase from here. For this reason I hope you go with Sebastian Villa. However I suspect that a sale of either him or Jonas Wind is inevitable if we are to deliver on our transferbudget.

Bonusinfo: Roumor has it that before Daramy was moved to the first team RB Leipzig placed af bid of around 5 million Euros and AC Milan has also been contemplating a bid, but had to complete a loan move for Hauge before they could move on him.
Welcome to our forum Jt80! Can you elaborate a bit on the strengths and weaknesses of Daramy?
Thank you :-)

Daramy’s core strengths is acceleration and dribbling. He has continuously added levels to his relational game and gotten way more cynical in his decisions on the pitch (knowing when to pass or dribble). I put this down to continuous games at a senior level and his form has been upward with no mentionable obstacles. His defensive discipline is also quite good, for a player of his type as this is a really important aspect in the schooling of talents at FC Copenhagen.

Last derby against league rivals he didn’t score, but was pivotal in binding Brøndbys defence thus opening spaces for his teammates to score. All three of Brøndbys yellow cards were committed against him.
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Club gaat geen € 15 miljoen betalen voor een speler, dat zie ik niet snel gebeuren.
Daramy zal het niet worden jammer genoeg.
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Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 07:39 Club gaat geen € 15 miljoen betalen voor een speler, dat zie ik niet snel gebeuren.
Daramy zal het niet worden jammer genoeg.
I certainly hope so :D We would very much like to hold on to him for this season as we are sorely lacking in the speed department as of now. We will loose him for sure either in the next summer window or the winter window. I understand that Brugge will not pay the amount that we are demanding as it is too big a gamble, but he is surely worth this amount given his age and competencies (1v1, speed etc.).

Hope you guys have a good season!
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Jt80 schreef: 16 aug 2021, 08:29
Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 07:39 Club gaat geen € 15 miljoen betalen voor een speler, dat zie ik niet snel gebeuren.
Daramy zal het niet worden jammer genoeg.
I certainly hope so :D We would very much like to hold on to him for this season as we are sorely lacking in the speed department as of now. We will loose him for sure either in the next summer window or the winter window. I understand that Brugge will not pay the amount that we are demanding as it is too big a gamble, but he is surely worth this amount given his age and competencies (1v1, speed etc.).

Hope you guys have a good season!
It seems that Club Brugge made an offer of € 11,5 million and are still negotiating...to be continued.
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Jt80 schreef: 16 aug 2021, 08:29
Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 07:39 Club gaat geen € 15 miljoen betalen voor een speler, dat zie ik niet snel gebeuren.
Daramy zal het niet worden jammer genoeg.
I certainly hope so :D We would very much like to hold on to him for this season as we are sorely lacking in the speed department as of now. We will loose him for sure either in the next summer window or the winter window. I understand that Brugge will not pay the amount that we are demanding as it is too big a gamble, but he is surely worth this amount given his age and competencies (1v1, speed etc.).

Hope you guys have a good season!
It seems that Club Brugge made an offer of € 11,5 million and are still negotiating...to be continued.
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Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 09:47
Jt80 schreef: 16 aug 2021, 08:29
Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 07:39 Club gaat geen € 15 miljoen betalen voor een speler, dat zie ik niet snel gebeuren.
Daramy zal het niet worden jammer genoeg.
I certainly hope so :D We would very much like to hold on to him for this season as we are sorely lacking in the speed department as of now. We will loose him for sure either in the next summer window or the winter window. I understand that Brugge will not pay the amount that we are demanding as it is too big a gamble, but he is surely worth this amount given his age and competencies (1v1, speed etc.).

Hope you guys have a good season!
It seems that Club Brugge made an offer of € 11,5 million and are still negotiating...to be continued.
Interesting... Could you provide a source?

Edit: A FCK fanmedia writes that a decision has been made, to keep Daramy for a year, according to sources close to the sports director.
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Jt80 schreef: 16 aug 2021, 10:24
Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 09:47
Jt80 schreef: 16 aug 2021, 08:29
Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 07:39 Club gaat geen € 15 miljoen betalen voor een speler, dat zie ik niet snel gebeuren.
Daramy zal het niet worden jammer genoeg.
I certainly hope so :D We would very much like to hold on to him for this season as we are sorely lacking in the speed department as of now. We will loose him for sure either in the next summer window or the winter window. I understand that Brugge will not pay the amount that we are demanding as it is too big a gamble, but he is surely worth this amount given his age and competencies (1v1, speed etc.).

Hope you guys have a good season!
It seems that Club Brugge made an offer of € 11,5 million and are still negotiating...to be continued.
Interesting... Could you provide a source?

Edit: A FCK fanmedia writes that a decision has been made, to keep Daramy for a year, according to sources close to the sports director.
"Pokkers!" 🇩🇰😁
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We kunnen ook beginnen fantaseren over messi die zou spelen bij fcb, of nu misschien mbappe overnemen etc... zolang er geen handtekening staat, verdoen we onze tijd met dromen (lol).... gewoon omdat we ongeduldig zijn naar toptransfers, maar er komt (voorlopig) niks.
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Fanzy schreef: 16 aug 2021, 12:27
Jt80 schreef: 16 aug 2021, 10:24
Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 09:47
Jt80 schreef: 16 aug 2021, 08:29
Tiki Taka schreef: 16 aug 2021, 07:39 Club gaat geen € 15 miljoen betalen voor een speler, dat zie ik niet snel gebeuren.
Daramy zal het niet worden jammer genoeg.
I certainly hope so :D We would very much like to hold on to him for this season as we are sorely lacking in the speed department as of now. We will loose him for sure either in the next summer window or the winter window. I understand that Brugge will not pay the amount that we are demanding as it is too big a gamble, but he is surely worth this amount given his age and competencies (1v1, speed etc.).

Hope you guys have a good season!
It seems that Club Brugge made an offer of € 11,5 million and are still negotiating...to be continued.
Interesting... Could you provide a source?

Edit: A FCK fanmedia writes that a decision has been made, to keep Daramy for a year, according to sources close to the sports director.
"Pokkers!" 🇩🇰😁
Hehe well if a club were to place a bid, in the amount of 15 million Euros I personally think that would force the sports director to put the decision in front of the board. That would be a most uncomfortable decision as two of the owners that own a share majority aren't in the slightest interested in football. One of them is quoted saying he doesn't like it when the team is playing for his money every sunday :grin:
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